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  • FluzzardFluzzard Posts: 12,514 Farm Super Saga Moderator

    @Spinnifix Thanks for your tag.

    It seems that I'm late.😂🤣

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  • Lady_ChooLady_Choo Posts: 14,199 Farm Moderator

    I think personally if the community managers had a problem, they would say so. It's all about encouraging players to post regardless. Demanding the way that you want them is not going to encourage people to post. It will put people off from suggesting ideas or tagging anyone to help. That is why I never tell anybody not to tag me even though it is players I have not seen because they are playing different games. I appreciate them trying to help.

    The only time I will even ask people not to tag is the CMS when a well meaning player has tagged them and the answer to contact support had already been given.

    The CMS will edit posts and close posts or direct @Elsa or one of us to close it on their behalf if need be. There are a lot of websites out there with the same issue of people not reading posts and starting a new thread, you will not be able to stop it here because you want it stopped. Players have to have places they can feel happy posting not to worry if they are posting where they should not be 🤷 you can ask nicely that they try but not get mad when they fail.



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  • SpinnifixSpinnifix Posts: 17,101 Ambassador

    I have more and more the feeling that what I am really about is not understood. Tried to share it over and over again. The players vote and then it is closed because the contribution or the idea already exists. Then that's the way it is. Only I feel sorry for the players, they vote and it closes. So players could say "why should I vote when it closes"? I think about the players, so I wanted to avoid chaos. I just wanted to check beforehand whether the player lists could be used. It was just well thought of by me. Nothing else!!! Then everything will continue as before. Pity!!!😔

                                                                 
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  • Lady_SarinaLady_Sarina Posts: 1,782 Jelly Moderator

    Gday @Spinnifix @DieOmimi @lilikoikisses

    Oh you first three have been reading my mind and maybe telepathically - my note book roflol

    Everything about what you're saying is fantabulous 5x over and triple!!!!!!

    We need to start right at the very first click. Both the community icon in the games (should be more unified) and the pathway from King. Both should lead to a sign-up / log-in page.

    There you should be only able to choose between support help centre or community. That's it. All game tech issue, purchases, connection issues, complaints, lost boosters etc should go to support and be removed/transferred from community posts.

    The Community icon should take you through a 3 step sign -up process and NOT be able to post UNTIL YOU HAVE COMPLETED THEM. Or Log-In if you are already a member.

    Step 1: You know what the community is about and what its goal is,, what is expected of you as a Community member in a House Behaviour Guide (what is and is not acceptable and who you answer to if you break them.( Read Only)

    Step 2: Read and accept the Community "How - to' Guide....How to post in each area, posting off-topic and repeat posting- Why Not!, how to bold, tag, translate, link etc, Descriptions of each area and where and how to find it and who manages it , how to earn badges, level up and what the levels are in the community and how to post ones you've earned etc (Read Only). (Yes both guides should be available once in The Community, in green permanently as Read Only, without any click "here" nor reposting of it by others ---this avoids navigation issues, long and confusing pathways and ending up somewhere different (possibly in another game area)

    Step 3: agree to terms, conditions, behaviours and then sign-up, allowing you to enter. This completely takes care of the posting before you read and navigating off - topic with the "here" link before you've finished reading. (which I did!!!)

    Don't get me started on the changes that are needed once entering, this is just the start. This is all just from what issues I've faced since I've gotten here and what experience I would have preferred. So much lost time! Simplify!!! Prevention is better than a cure.

    I have an 8 seater table in my study, I can so imagine us discussing this, I'm so excited my brain has ideas and drawings coming in and out at light speed lol

    Love you guyz already lol Like-minded

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  • SpinnifixSpinnifix Posts: 17,101 Ambassador

    Hello Channie! @channie8


    Please do not be angry. I have read your text and understood it, but I forgot what this post is about. I think the part of you should be deposited in my action. To improve the community. Here is what I want, that you check beforehand and then store the tagging lists and ask the players to vote.

    Hope it came across understandably!

                                                                 
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  • ElenaVoronaElenaVorona Posts: 558 Level 3

    @chanie8

    You talked about some ideal forum registration.

    You did not take into account one point.

    After each long text, there is an "OK" or "I agree" button.

    If tomorrow I register with the community according to your rules, what will prevent me from just skipping all this long text with tips and rules? I'll just press the button.

    And that's all. And then everything will be as it is now. I write what I want and where I want.

  • Lady_SarinaLady_Sarina Posts: 1,782 Jelly Moderator

    Gday to all

    Yes, that is a very valid point you bring up, I hear it, some very well might do that I agree.

    However, if they are read only and no-one else can repost them, they will have to re-read them to learn how to post, level up, about the community etc Keeping it neat and tidy in one place. Not cluttering up the community with needless navigation pathways that can lead you anywhere at al!! It also stops repeat post and people posting "how too's" and "here's" just to get points and level up

    In the end the discresion is up to the individual member as to how they act but to me, It will reflect who you are as a person, a member and whether or not you are a team player with the Community's best interests at heart or your own. It's a "culture" thing.

    At the end of the day each member is responsible for their own reputation....QUOTE King.com: "Being a Kingster isn't only what you do, it's how you do it"

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  • Lady_ChooLady_Choo Posts: 14,199 Farm Moderator

    @channie8 we do already have house rules. As with many sites you have to abide by them in order to use the site in which case if you break the rules, the CMs can therefore block your account.

    If posts are irrelevant they can be removed by the cms.

    But irrelevant posts are not always the same to everyone. I know for a fact many of us have asked about posts and being told that they are fine. Sometimes people want to post a lot so that they can change avatars for example. And if people wanted to be a superstar, 15000 posts saying hi and nothing else, is not going to make them one.

    At the end of the day it is not down to ambassadors like Spinnifix or the superstars or players how the community is run. Its down to King and the Community managers of who's site it is. We can make suggestions and feedback but they ultimately decide. And while we might not always agree, we are all guests here. The point is that we should be being friendly and accepting of all. No forum is completely clean and clutter free and the only ones that are, are not welcoming 🙄



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  • ElenaVoronaElenaVorona Posts: 558 Level 3

    I really appreciate @Spinnifix's efforts to make this forum perfect or just make this forum better.

    But I think Spinnifix solves the problem from the wrong side.

    When a person creates a topic (in Ideas) and asks @Diamond Lim to add tags to the topic, does Diamond Lim have to check if an idea is relevant or not, was it already on the forum or not?

    Nonsense. On the part of Diamond Lim, this is just a kind gesture.

    I have already said that in Ideas this problem can be solved by pre-moderation. But this is not interesting to anyone. (When I first came to the forum, I was very surprised that this is not here).

    Ideas can only be published after being reviewed by a competent expert.

    Or complain that you were called 2-3-4-5-6-7 times to read what you have already read in Ideas.

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    @channel8

    I read your message.

    But again I did not understand why I must read everything when registering.

    Imagine. I don't want to read. I just scroll and press the button. Nobody can make me read everything you want me to read. Nobody.

    I do not understand how you can make a person read all of your rules.

    It's impossible.

    You come up with good ideas. But this is idealism. And it doesn't work in real life.

  • Lady_SarinaLady_Sarina Posts: 1,782 Jelly Moderator

    Gday to you all, I hope you are doing well.

    I hear your points the way you have heard mine and understand completely. However, these things shouldn't stop us from being innovate and creative. Using best practice to move forward in at least making something function with greater ease and better quality, doesn't always mean you perfectly fix it, just a continuous road to improvement on big and little things. Some areas overlap. It's not being unfriendly or condemning the CMs to voice, what could be great vehicles for change. In fact King encourages these discussions that's why they have updates and improvements and courses on team building and leadership. It wants people who can not only generate ideas, but motivated as a team player to those ideas implemented, with speed and quantity. Like I said, touring King. com is something you won't be disappointed in and will learn a lot and be inspired to do better and expand your expertice

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  • PrettyBubblesPrettyBubbles Posts: 5,108 Bubble Witch Moderator

    Hi @channie8 Can you please refrain from tagging CMs and if you need help tag one of us in the first instance if we cant help we will then raise issues

    We are working to help alleviate our CMs workload wherever we can as they are super busy.

    That's what us Superstars are here for in addition to taking good care of our community and supporting our amazing game expert and players.

    Please bear this in mind for the future 👍

  • ElsaElsa Posts: 32,283 Community Hub Moderator

    How very sad I feel about this message and the content. Please everyone do express your thoughts here but as I go through some of your messages I feel the need to comment so please bear with me.

    On my own and because of my desire to help the community grow I volunteered my time to create a Master List of ideas for the large game areas. It wasn't asked of me to do it. No one forced me to do it. But I felt the need was there because the studios want to get more involved and they want to hear from the players. First I want to point out that the ideas posted areas were set up to offer a detailed idea on how to improve the game. I am not going into that right now but I want to address what @Timhung wrote: I know the idea page has an announcement about "posts before..." but I think most people are easy to neglect it."

    How very sad that people ignore that message. If they read it then those of us who visit the ideas area wouldn't have to tell the player posting their idea that it's very similar to what has been previously posted. There is a reason why that is set up and it's to learn the best way to post an idea.

    Now let's discuss the Master List of ideas that takes me 5 hours every month to go through the entire list by opening up my Excel spreadsheet and starting a brand new page. Then I copy/past the previous list that now needs to be changed. Then I have to compare the list to what is currently showing. I make the necessary changes to increase the new number of votes. I add all new ideas to the list and then go through those ideas that have very few votes and close them. Why am I closing them? First I respect every single player for their suggestions but if the subject header says "lives" how many of you here actually think the players will take the time to read it if there are 3 "lives" ideas posted? Then the contents of the idea is not always spelled out in details. I'm going off this now because this message will be too long.

    Back to the beginning and what was written. If players neglect how to post or don't check the Master List first before creating their own idea then don't any of you realize how much more work it is for those who are trying to tidy it up? I know that none of you have the answer and I truly love and appreciate what @Timhung wrote here. I am going to read all the messages here and might have to chat with the CMs to find out how to improve this. Thank you!



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  • ElsaElsa Posts: 32,283 Community Hub Moderator

    @Trish24 your message is very important and I'd like to comment on it. It would be wonderful if something could pop up saying that the idea already suggests but that would be in a perfect world and I know that I don't live in a perfect world. If I did the COVID-19 virus would never have existed! I have a suggestion for you. Since the team who creates this website has so many things to work on, why don't you volunteer your time and go through the ideas section once per week and read each idea and comment if it appears to be duplicated and then tag me so that I can determine if it should be closed and then close it.

    If any of you want to help this community grow, then please take a part by volunteering to help me. Look at the ideas for your game or any of them for that matter and suggest and tag and offer the master list link.

    I really and truly wish that the editor of this website could have a pop up suggesting that but I've asked them for pop ups that do occur to be taken down and I think that might take priority over adding new pop ups. But I truly do like your message and than you for writing.



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  • SpinnifixSpinnifix Posts: 17,101 Ambassador

    @Elsa

    I don't understand now. I've submitted ideas as you know and I go through all of the idea areas every day. Am I being deported now? I keep doing it. Because I said from the start that the areas of ideas are close to my heart.

                                                                 
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  • ElsaElsa Posts: 32,283 Community Hub Moderator

    I would now like to respond to what @lilikoikisses wrote. That's a nice lengthy message!

    You wrote:

    l1) I really love @DieOmimi’s suggestion of designating 1 or 2 people per idea forums, who would work closely with the CM’s. A slightly specialized version of the Game Experts. Alleviating some of the work load of the Game Experts/Superstars/CM’s and allowing them to focus more on assisting Newbies, dealing with support issues, and creating the badges and contests we all enjoy so much!

    My response:

    It's already done! I don't like to carry titles but for this message I will. I am the specialized expert for the ideas sections and I do work closely with all the CMs all the time about their game ideas. You guys aren't aware of this because it's done in the background, behind the scenes. We need to take less off of our already overworked CMs who are constantly looking for ways to help the community grow while addressing game issues.

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    2).An area in the King Community Hub for Community oriented suggestions, like what most of the Game Forums have.

    My response:

    @Spinnifix has already set up a message Let's make King Community the perfect place for all of us!

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    3) A easily accessible and regularly updated list of ‘Master Ideas’ (like a Table of Contents) at the top of the Ideas page. A very basic guide, that isn’t more than a page or two that has all the Ideas that are currently relevant to that game. Brief descriptions that would limited to a short sentence at most.

    My response:

    It already exists. Here it is in the Saga ideas area.

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    4) Each of those could be a quick link to the original, much more detailed posts. This is where (on topic) commenting, collaborating and voting would be encouraged! Some of the ‘Master Lists’ are essentially in this format already, and wouldn’t need to much adjusting.

    Mr response:

    I would love to have you volunteer and others here volunteer to do this. Offer the original idea link. It would be very helpful if you could do that and then tag me to close the message.

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    5) The Managers/Superstars would still help with editing the ‘subject’ when posts are not relevant or duplicates, (like they do on finished contests), when the post is beyond the 24 hour edit time limit. Making very obvious labels would help eliminate a lot of confusion.

    And one last thought...

    Perhaps the Ideas section of each game was essentially its own mini forum, with designated categories, such as current/new/pending ideas prioritizer while old/denied/duplicated ideas could be ‘archived’ away?

    Ok. That’s what I’ve got to offer...

    I hope everyone’s New Year’s Eve was safe and cozy!

    Mr final response is to your final suggestion:

    It is already done and I work with the CMs behind the scenes. Please look at the image above. Do you see Tiffy's Idea Libarary? that is where all the old/denied/duplicated ideas are archived away. But were you aware of it? Is anyone going into that link to see what's no long active? That's where you and others can help the CMs and me. Please all of you try to get more active in this section for all 5 of the large games. Look at the new ideas coming in and get familiar with the master list and the archives and then please post the link/tag me to look at it.

    Thanks for this long message and I hope that I have addressed some of your concerns.



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