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New spinning wheel for extra moves tested and explained

christinewupp

Oh no! I have gone back to my testing obsession…. For a short while anyway. But so long as the makers of Candy Crush keep bringing out new features I feel like I need to test them out.

This one is very unpopular as it thwarts players whose strategy is to click through failed levels until they are given a free pass with hundreds of extra moves. Now at last I'm seeing this feature in one of my games.

I had indefinite lives from the team event (so it was good for testing purposes if nothing else). This is a screenshot of the offers seen on the wheel as it spins:

First test: Legendary level 1625:

The first attempt was a close fail (2 short of the order) 5 extra moves were offered and would have been enough. I declined the offer and continued to press "replay" until I passed.

Attempts 2-9:

Each time the wheel stopped on +10 so I was offered +15 moves plus a booster, regardless of how close I was to passing. The first five times a UFO was added. The next two a stripe or colour bomb was added to the +15 moves. 9th attempt a UFO again.

10th attempt I was able to pass with no help.

Unmarked level 1636

First attempt failed, I now deliberately failed this level to see if the offer would be different for levels that are meant to be easy.

2. +15

3. +20 +fish

4. +20 + UFO

5. +20 + fish

6. + 15 + CB

7. +20 + fish

8. by this time I had lost my indefinite lives and this was my last life effort: I was offered the fishing boat and played all three starting boosters. Normally this would help me pass. I deliberately failed to see what the game would offer me:

Bingo!

The wheel landed on the top prize!

I didn't pay of course.

So for today testing is over.

My verdict:

Nothing is random about the wheel, obviously
Legendary levels will give players the same offer repeatedly . In this case it was +15 moves +booster
Levels we are meant to pass: The wheel will help us to pass by choosing an obvious winning offer
I don't think the app takes into account our gold balance in its decision
I don't think the app takes into account how close we got to passing in its decision (in fact I'm pretty sure it does not "know" how close we got)
The app appears to take into account the fishing boat offer, which may trigger a better offer

I suspect this wheel is here to stay. Too many players have figured out how to use the increasing extra moves offers and beat the game that way. The app is trying to take back control over our gold usage. It might also be a method by the app to stop players using a favourite All Stars exploit. However there remain a gazillion ways to beat the app for those who understand the algorithms. Personally I quite like the change. Trying to work out the patterns and using my head to beat the app brings a little bit of strategy back into the game. (Please don't rip my head off for saying this, but offering +255 moves to everyone for 10 gold was just too dumb)

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Carol-38

Hi @AmandaWordy @tltgirl @minnaj if you haven't already done so, would you add your comments to the main thread about the 🤬 Wheel. That way the Community Manager will have lots of feedback to send to the King Studio. Just click on the'View Post' in green on the attachment below and add your comments. Thank you all, really hope King will listen and act on this occasion 🤞🤞

https://community.king.com/en/candy-crush-saga/discussion/586896/wheel-of-fortune-is-a-bad-idea-edited-by-cm-collecting-feedback

AmandaWordy

I hate it! It slows you down too much after each game, therefore wasting timed bonuses. After being stuck for ages, at least you’d built up hundreds of attempts. Tbh that encouraged me to spend. I knew I’d pass with 200 moves! Now if I’m stuck for ages, I still might only get 10 extra moves. Ridiculous.
Candy Crush has become nothing but a swindling you out of money game, I used to really enjoy it and I’ve played it for years. No points for loyalty… just penalised in every way they can think of. Not happy…

tltgirl

They just want you to buy...don't like the new features at all!!

minnaj

I absolutely hate this new addition. They have made the individual levels harder to do and all I ever get is 10 or 15 lives on this spinning wheel, which is absolutely no help in winning these difficult levels. It's just another way that King is making this game less and less enjoyable.

__mulliganaceous__

To fix the spinning wheel, just increase the amount of moves offered to it to a comparable level as before uniformly.

Carol-38

https://community.king.com/en/candy-crush-saga/discussion/comment/3550684#Comment_3550684

I'm not so sure that all the complaints have been from players at the end of the map @christinewupp and I'm speaking up for everyone, no matter where they are in their game. Believe me for the past 8 and a half years I've been in the Community, I know that King will still do what King want to do, no matter what we (I) say. But on this occasion there are many who do pay a good amount of money, who I'm sure will stop paying if this non fun, non relaxing, non helpful feature stays. Let's face it paying players pay to make it a bit more fun, moving up their map, and as many have said, this is a waste of their money. So guess this feature will remain until King see their profits drop. I'm not into all the 'Cheating' lark, just want to have a bit of fun. Guess only time will tell, and we'll have to wait and see what happens 🥴

Carol-38

https://community.king.com/en/candy-crush-saga/discussion/comment/3550669#Comment_3550669

No @__MULLIGANACEOUS__ let's not say

However, the new spinning wheel should also apply for first attempts…

Lets say, the new Spinning Wheel should just be put in the 🗑️ sooner rather than later.

christinewupp

https://community.king.com/en/candy-crush-saga/discussion/comment/3550577#Comment_3550577

You make fair points @Carol-38 and speak for all the players near the end of the map.

The problem is that King don't care what you think nor in fact what you do: Non-paying players near the end of the map are of no value to the company nor do King care if you quit or if you stick with the game. Despite what the staff in this community might keep telling people: Your feedback is not valued nor taken into consideration.

After another few hours of testing I find that for this player at level 1600+ it makes no difference if I see the wheel or if I get offered a predictable number or extra moves. Either way my winning strategy for success is the same: Either pay when I can see I have been offered enough moves (and for this player +15 moves is always enough), watch three ads if I want to waste three minutes of my life and I can see that the ads offer is enough, or replay using boosters to help me pass. I generally choose the method I find most enjoyable (which is rarely the ads option) and which helps me increase my gold balance. I'm up to 5000 gold now and I'm nowhere near level 2000 yet.

The verdict: The game is getting easier for new players, (once they manage to get through the first 200 levels of hell). That is why we never hear from players here asking about specific levels any more and why newbie players don't find their way into this community @Carol-38. The game gives them the gold and boosters they need to pass levels, win episode races and events, and enjoy the game.

End of map players are just barely tolerated by the game, that's all.

My guess of why King are trialling (and probably will implement) this wheel of hell is this:

In this day and age of the internet and social media no half intelligent person is tied in to their five lives or 20 lives from friends any more. The one and only cheat for Candy Crush that is found by anyone asking ChatGPT or Google makes it easy for anyone to keep pressing the "replay" button ad nauseum until the game gives them a pass. That is the reason why lucky boards have been written out of the game. Recently the app changed the boredom and frustration factor by finally and thankfully allowing players to skip out of a hopeless level without losing their end of level reward should they choose to pay the gold. This meant that now players don't have to play all 25 moves of a legendary level in order to have their extra moves offer increase. This change then makes it too easy (and quick!) for players to just skip through levels until 10 gold will be enough to pass. This new wheel is King's response to all that.

It's an arms race. It always has been and always will be an arms race, between those who know the tricks to beat the game and play for free and King who try to make players spend money on it.

ajkailing

I don’t like the change and hope it goes back. You have to play a ton to get to the max 255 moves (previously offered) and it helped you accomplish the other challenges (complete 2000 blue candies in a level win). As a person that averages $20 a week in additional purchases, I see this change as costing a lot more, which might finally end my habit 😁

__mulliganaceous__

I bet the continue-farming method relies too much on actually failing levels, and turning hearts as fuel.

Support. However, the new spinning wheel should also apply for first attempts…

Carol-38

https://community.king.com/en/candy-crush-saga/discussion/588369/new-spinning-wheel-for-extra-moves-tested-and-explained

It's great that you have tested it @christinewupp but let's not forget you stopped your original game at 20000, because you found it boring, all skills required to pass taken away. You are happy to keep starting new games and ending them when you feel you've had enough, I like many others just stick with my one game. Now as you know, a long time ago King changed our daily extra moves to the maximum of 20. To finish an Episode with this stupid 🤬 Wheel and the maximum of 20 lives is 🤕🤕🤕 and no fun whatsoever. Where is the skill required to finish many ridiculously overloaded with boosters and no moves to get them, relaxing and fun. It's just another ploy from King to gain 💷💶💵💴 but as many paying players have said, it could be the last nail in their coffin.

So for me, and all the other players, old and new to the Community, who have commented on it, King really need to rethink what they have done and pop the Wheel in the 🗑️. I will change my tactics again for as long as it stays, not saying what they are, but I'll see how it goes 🙄. But it has now cut my play and commitment to staying at the end of the map. Boring boring, uncaring King, what will they think of next 🤔

Edited to say ⬇️

Please don't rip my head off for saying this, but offering +255 moves to everyone for 10 gold was just too dumb

Yes 255 is a silly amount of moves, but I have played new levels that are 'Just too Dumb' as well, requiring more than 60 extra moves. So the 🤬 Wheel is as many have said, rubbish, and it needs to go 👍