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@QueenB @LoFiGummy @Snow_Rider
It took me ages to access the forum this evening due to the issue shown below.
Well lucky you @Alienscar 🙃 except you are accepting 2nd best. The best would be having all 5 including Off Topic on the screen, without having to scroll. Not such a big deal for those who know what's hiding on the right, I suppose, but some don't know there is another 1 or 2 hiding.
As for the tagging overspill, good job you know I've got pigtails, freckles and glasses 😂.
We're now 6 months into the new Vanilla upgrade (if we can call it an upgrade) and it's still worse than the old version. It's certainly stopped many sharing their two-penny worth in the Community, such a shame 😢.
It looks okay on my Android phone @Carol-38
I really wish they would fix the tagging overspill issue when in portrait mode though.
Thanks for the reply @QueenB I actually received notification that you had tagged me👍. This is what I've got now, Contests has managed to squeeze itself in.
Shame Vanilla don't use something like the Olympic Rings, and just put the name in each ring. That would/should fit on the smallest screen.
Yes I know, another suggestion that will be ignored, that's OK I'm used to it now. I just can't help suggesting things 🙃
Thanks for sharing this @Carol-38
It's not supposed to be that much space between the icons so we've had a look and there was an update that changed things so can you check now if it looks better now?
Out of interest @QueenB is the the final result of the buttons for mobile users ⬇️
Portrait mode
Landscape mode ⬇️ that I don't use.
Either way it should be that all the buttons are closer together. I'm sure there are many who don't realise they have to scroll to see all the buttons. And even on landscape the Off Topic isn't showing, without scrolling. If this is the final result, it's a shambles along with the sub thread Reply. Guess your head is hurting 🤕 just as much as ours, but what a mess Vanilla have made of it all. Shame King can't use a different company, maybe Chocolate, Strawberry or Banana. Now that could be a bit more palatable😳.
Also I'm still waiting to see if my tagging is working again, as I didn't receive any notifications last week from those tagging me 🥴. Did send you two posts, but maybe your tags aren't working either 🤔.
The Community has certainly taken a dive for the worse, since the new system was implemented, another 🤕. Got my 🤞 improvements are still being looked at.
What seems to be happening is that the forum remembers the last page you viewed in a discussion, instead of always jumping directly to the newest comment.
That doesn't appear to be the case @QueenB and it is just that every thread that is more than one page long opens on the last page.
If it remembered the last page I viewed it would always open on the first page as the newest comments are now always on the first page.
As an example the post mentioned before now has two new comments.
Obviously the last page I viewed was page one to read the seven new comments posted last time
I open it to read the two new comments and once again I am taken to page two
Hi @Alienscar
Thanks for the detailed example and screenshots. This is actually something we’ve flagged with our forum provider before and we’re still following up on it.
What seems to be happening is that the forum remembers the last page you viewed in a discussion, instead of always jumping directly to the newest comment. That can make it look like some of the new replies are missing until you scroll or move between pages.
I see the same behaviour myself from time to time and I completely agree that it’s not the best experience when you’re trying to follow an active discussion.
I’ll check again on the status from our side and see if there’s any update on a fix.
Are the basic functionality issues that this site is suffering from ever going to be fixed @neeuq @QueenB or is this as good as it gets now?
Christine's thread that you can see below shows seven new posts since I last viewed it.
When I click on it instead of being taken to the new posts I am taken to page 2
I then have to select page 1 to be shown some of the new posts.
There are only three new posts above the 'New Posts' line though, so where are the other four? Hidden in nested comments somewhere else in the thread, that's where. I now have to scroll around looking for the other new posts which involves reading old posts until I spot something I don't think I have read before.
Being taken to the wrong page of a thread when looking for new posts applies to every thread that is more than one page long. The issue with the hidden new posts applies to every post with new nested comments.
The nested comments do not work QueenB they ruin the basic functionality of this forum, which is communication.
Note that I left another example of an issue that makes this forum frustrating to use. The long running issue of the moving cursor. In my post you can see a failed tag before your tag. This is caused by the cursor moving after I have started to type and as you can see the first letter I typed (q) ended up at the end of the word. This results in a failed tag. It can't be fixed and another tag won't work until I exit my post and come back to via Drafts.
We've seen this as well @Alienscar and know that it has been reported and we're still waiting on these improvements. As always, thank you for flagging these 🙏
I didn't think this forum could get any worse, but looks like I was wrong.
Even basic information isn't displayed correctly anymore on a mobile.
@QueenB @FluffyDinosaur
Hi Alienscar, thanks so much for the feedback! Have you tried using the "hamburger menu" to go back to the area you were in? I mean this one:
This is where our menu has ended up being on mobile 😁
using the back button will take you back to where the icons are still visible
It is not as simple as that though @QueenB and using the back button ignores some aspects of this site. If I receive a notification, when I select the notification to read the post I am taken back to my notifications when I press the back button and not to an area where the icons are visible.
Notification
Select notification to read post
Press back button
Also due to the mess caused by the nested replies when I use the back button I am taken back to my drafts instead of the main board. Nested replies invariably require the use of drafts due to the issue of the box freezing.
how best to display those nav shortcuts
Well surely as they used to display without an issue the solution is obvious.
Hey @Alienscar 👋
Thanks for bringing this up and you're absolutely right, this inconsistency isn’t ideal and I totally get how it messes with the flow when navigating around the community, especially on mobile.
What’s happening is that we’re currently doing some tests with the layout, particularly around the category icons. We noticed that those icons were taking up a lot of space on mobile and getting in the way of content, so we’re working on improvements. That’s why you’ll see them in some areas (like Support) but not others (like Discussions or Contests). The idea was to clean things up a bit visually while we rethink how best to display those nav shortcuts.
That said, we know it’s useful to have them for easy navigation, so they’re not gone for good, we’re just trying to strike a better balance. In the meantime, using the back button will take you back to where the icons are still visible, which I know isn’t perfect, but it’s a workaround while we test out a better version.
Appreciate the nudge and we’re on it… hopeful we can bring a more polished experience back soon 😉
Thanks for the reminder @Alienscar. The issue is not unique to your device. It is always happening on my Android tablets. I will see if this issue can be prioritized for mobile users.
@QueenB @LoFiGummy
The issue of the board headers is still going on. When I read a post in every board other than the Support board I can't navigate back to the board to read another post because the board headers are missing.
In the Support board everything looks as it should.
This site is too difficult to navigate now. Why have the board buttons (Discussions/Support/Contests/Ideas) been removed.
Hi @QueenB
I am using a Samsung Galaxy S24. My current OneUI version is 8.0, my current Android version is 16. But I have had this problem since I started, at least a year and a half. I use Firefox 146.0.1. My tagging issue seems to happen in any comment I try to type.
Hi @Alienscar and @Nobody1 👋
Just stopping by to let you know I haven’t forgotten about the tagging issue you both flagged. I'm now working with our platform provider to dig deeper into it, and they’ve asked for a bit more info to help them reproduce the problem and speed up a fix.
Would you be able to let me know the following when you have a minute?
Really appreciate the extra help here and I know it’s a frustrating one 🙈 Thanks so much in advance!
@Alienscar 🫣🥴 uff so sorry… just reached out again and provided them these images as well, really hope they can solve this ASAP 🥺
@Alienscar I was referring to both!
At least you're able to tag at all, Alienscar. I can only tag people who show up on the list after typing no more than 2 characters. Beyond that and my cursor jumps and I am unable to tag. Sorry - I couldn't tag you for this because of it. :-)
And I agree that so much works badly in portrait mode.
PS:
Aargh! How am I supposed to know who I am tagging
Are you referring to the nesting issue or the tagging issue @QueenB
Either way it is good that something is getting done, but it is a real shame to hear that this wasn't a priority already.
Hey @Alienscar You're going to love the timing on this… I literally lost my patience with this exact issue yesterday, made a screen recording, and sent it to Vanilla 😅
We had a meeting with them and pushed pretty hard to have this prioritized. The good news is they were able to reproduce it and it’s now on their radar as a priority issue. So I'm really hoping we’ll hear something good soon.
Also, thank you for giving us another nudge, fingers crossed we’ll see improvements coming soon 🤞
This isn't fun anymore @QueenB the issue of replying using the nested option is just too hard
It is just a screenshot so what you can't tell is that my screen is essentially frozen.
I can't scroll up or down. I had to exit the post and start again. This has been going on since Oct last year.
Disappointingly an issue I reported in April 2024 is still an issue, so this can be blamed on the new format
Sadly it is yet another example of how landscape mode is prioritised over portrait mode.
It is not so bad when tagging people you know, but when tagging new people it is a real nuisance.
The way categories are structured are currently too large to show more than two buttons on screen
Thanks for the update @QueenB
Part of the frustration caused by the community update is that issues being caused by Vanilla never used to exist even though this forum used Vanilla. The categories all used to fit along the top, so the fact that they don't now means the 'improvement' has failed at a very basic element.
It shouldn't, in my view, require changing to a list or grid view as that never used to be the case. The issue seems to be the placeholder size is far too big for a mobile screen.
It is what it is though and as it has been nearly two months of suffering from the same reported issues I guess there won't be any change soon.
Thanks for flagging this 🧐
I'm trying to reproduce it on my end (I'm on iOS) but not seeing the same thing at the moment. Just to help us narrow it down, could you let me know:
Just wanted to follow up with a bit more context after checking with the team!
Right now, the category header resets whenever switching sections so even if you scroll to “Ideas,” select it, and land on the correct section, the top banner still slides back to the first tab (like “Discussions”), which is confusing. We totally get how that breaks the experience and makes mobile navigation challenging.
The way categories are structured are currently too large to show more than two buttons on screen. The only workaround for now is switching to a list or grid view, but that comes with trade-offs too (like losing the icons).
So yeah, you're not imagining it, and this has been passed on as part of our ongoing feedback. Thanks again for your patience and really appreciate how clearly you’re flagging these pain points 🙏
It is getting harder and harder to use this forum as a mobile user @QueenB
When I navigate to the Ideas board I have to first scroll the board titles to find the Ideas heading.
When I then open the Ideas board the board headings scroll themselves back to show the Discussion board heading whilst I am still in the Idea Board
This makes using the Idea board very difficult as there is no longer any easy way of getting back to the board you are in now after reading a post.
I am truly fed up of Vanilla prioritising a landscape view over a portrait view for mobile users
All of the main Board titles used to fit on screen without the need to scroll. To offer a mobile friendly UI we need that back again
PS: none of the issues in this thread have been resolved yet.
The URL of the thread is https://share.google/3rFXPQP5lnSioMXLl
@QueenB
The always on reactions appeared as soon as I opened the thread and this is third time it has occurred. The first time was 28th Oct
The issue didn't occur on my laptop using an edge browser.
At the time neither refreshing the page nor reopening the forum helped.
The issue has stopped now.
Oh no! That definitely looks off 😳 Thanks so much for flagging it.
Would you mind helping us figure out what’s going on by answering a few quick things?
In the meantime, it might be worth trying to refresh the page or check if the same thing happens in a different browser, just so we can rule out a local glitch.
OMG @QueenB this forum is getting worse
Look at the reactions. I haven't touched them they have done that automatically.