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New fishes are not as useful as old ones

Hasen
Hasen Posts: 3

Level 1

edited March 7 in Discussions

I much preferred the way the old fishes worked. 3 for 1, combined with stripes for 3 targets, same for wrapped candies. Now they are much more random in their targeting, plus you need 3 times as many to do what one would do before.

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  • junebug78
    junebug78 Posts: 28

    Level 3

    I agree

  • Pyrospring
    Pyrospring Posts: 69

    Level 3

    edited March 7

    Technically they are less random. They have a set order and will hit blockers that are not jelly. The old fish only hit jelly, just talking the basic blockers in this case.

    The big trade off with the new vs old is, one fish that has smart targeting vs 3 that do not.

    If the level has lots of jelly the old fish are better. If the level has little to no jelly the new fish are better.

    The new fish also appear on all levels not just ones with fish generators or if you use the booster.

    Level that currently require lots of fish, the new fish are objectively terrible. That being said they are in general better overall IMO.

  • Nobody1
    Nobody1 Posts: 161

    I disagree that if the level has little to no jelly the new fish are better. It is also true that if the level needs striped or wrapped explosions to clear (which is especially true in most levels over 16000, for instance), the old fish are better. The difference between a single striped fish and 3 striped fish, or a single wrapped fish and 3 wrapped fish, is huge.

    The ability to kill under a dragon with a fish is of very limited value, since most levels with dragons have other mechanisms that can clear these easily if played intelligently. In general the new fish are in general substantially worse overall IMO.

  • MannyFae
    MannyFae Posts: 924

    Agree with @Nobody1. The advantages of the new fish are not as significant at higher levels, but the downsides are more painful. Furthermore, fish sometimes interfere with more complex and intelligent mechanics at some of those levels.

  • Pyrospring
    Pyrospring Posts: 69

    Level 3

    Can't speak to the higher levels obviously.

    Just from personal experience having played 1 to 1000 a billion times where there are few blocker variations and mostly it is just grind and 1 turn left crap, the new fish are an improvement. Yes there are some levels where they suck but those levels seem to be getting more turns to compensate… in general. More than a few times simply have fish on a level that never had them makes a world of difference. They you more options to win since the algorithm now has more options to win.

    Like most everything, what you experience at the top end is kinda irrelevant to King as the are working on the level experience, or so it seems anyway. Basically when they ask, why about this feature/event they really mean, so those under 10000 what do you think.

  • Pyrospring
    Pyrospring Posts: 69

    Level 3

    Can't speak to the higher levels obviously.

    Just from personal experience having played 1 to 1000 a billion times where there are few blocker variations and mostly it is just grind and 1 turn left crap, the new fish are an improvement. Yes there are some levels where they suck but those levels seem to be getting more turns to compensate… in general. More than a few times simply have fish on a level that never had them makes a world of difference. They you more options to win since the algorithm now has more options to win.

    Like most everything, what you experience at the top end is kinda irrelevant to King as the are working on the level experience, or so it seems anyway. Basically when they ask, why about this feature/event they really mean, so those under 10000 what do you think.

  • Pyrospring
    Pyrospring Posts: 69

    Level 3

    Can't speak to the higher levels obviously.

    Just from personal experience having played 1 to 1000 a billion times where there are few blocker variations and mostly it is just grind and 1 turn left crap, the new fish are an improvement. Yes there are some levels where they suck but those levels seem to be getting more turns to compensate… in general. More than a few times simply have fish on a level that never had them makes a world of difference. They you more options to win since the algorithm now has more options to win.

    Like most everything, what you experience at the top end is kinda irrelevant to King as the are working on the level experience, or so it seems anyway. Basically when they ask, why about this feature/event they really mean, so those under 10000 what do you think.

  • Pyrospring
    Pyrospring Posts: 69

    Level 3

    Can't speak to the higher levels obviously.

    Just from personal experience having played 1 to 1000 a billion times where there are few blocker variations and mostly it is just grind and 1 turn left crap, the new fish are an improvement. Yes there are some levels where they suck but those levels seem to be getting more turns to compensate… in general. More than a few times simply have fish on a level that never had them makes a world of difference. They you more options to win since the algorithm now has more options to win.

    Like most everything, what you experience at the top end is kinda irrelevant to King as the are working on the level experience, or so it seems anyway. Basically when they ask, why about this feature/event they really mean, so those under 10000 what do you think.

  • Pyrospring
    Pyrospring Posts: 69

    Level 3

    Can't speak to the higher levels obviously.

    Just from personal experience having played 1 to 1000 a billion times where there are few blocker variations and mostly it is just grind and 1 turn left crap, the new fish are an improvement. Yes there are some levels where they suck but those levels seem to be getting more turns to compensate… in general. More than a few times simply have fish on a level that never had them makes a world of difference. They you more options to win since the algorithm now has more options to win.

    Like most everything, what you experience at the top end is kinda irrelevant to King as the are working on the level experience, or so it seems anyway. Basically when they ask, why about this feature/event they really mean, so those under 10000 what do you think.

  • Pyrospring
    Pyrospring Posts: 69

    Level 3

    Can't speak to the higher levels obviously.

    Just from personal experience having played 1 to 1000 a billion times where there are few blocker variations and mostly it is just grind and 1 turn left crap, the new fish are an improvement. Yes there are some levels where they suck but those levels seem to be getting more turns to compensate… in general. More than a few times simply have fish on a level that never had them makes a world of difference. They you more options to win since the algorithm now has more options to win.

    Like most everything, what you experience at the top end is kinda irrelevant to King as the are working on the level experience, or so it seems anyway. Basically when they ask, why about this feature/event they really mean, so those under 10000 what do you think.

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