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Discussing the idea section
King_admin
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I have a suggestion.
Close all sections of ideas at once and send all members of the forum in bulk to the discussion sections.
I'm tired of reading the same advice, written in a template, from the same constant "helpers":
"This is not an idea. This is a discussion. Discuss it there. But do not discuss it here!"
"This is not an idea. This is a discussion. Discuss it there. But do not discuss it here!"
"This is not an idea. This is a discussion. Discuss it there. But do not discuss it here!"
"This is not an idea. This is a discussion. Discuss it there. But do not discuss it here!" ...
What do you guys call an idea?
Let the music turn green, and let the font warm, and let the psychic candies be positioned the way I just wanted?
If you have forgotten, then I will remind you that in the topics from the Ideas section you can also discuss the expressed idea. It is not prohibited.
Variants of the created themes:
1. If a player asks for help in solving a problem, this is a Support.
2. If the player makes a proposal to improve or change the game - these are Ideas.
3. If the player wants to discuss other issues that do not fit options 1 or 2 - these are Discussions.
What is the problem?
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OK.
@Lola_Pop @gr33n3y3z and other respected moderators.
Before you close this topic, can you answer two questions?
1. Where can I read how an idea differs from a discussion and what are the specific requirements for what is an idea and what is not an idea?
2. Why, in this particular case, the detailed and well-reasoned ideas expressed by @bojan_the_crusher do not have the right to be called ideas?
I want to figure it out.
Thank you in advance for your response.
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I totally agree with this. So many members in the community write and suggest very good and well-detailed ideas and all of these " helpers " always say " This is not an idea, this should be put into the discussions section " and " someone has already suggested this idea, please go and vote over there ". Why are all of these people's ideas not " ideas " and if someone suggests an idea like I did for Jenny in CCFS, their idea might be different or some things about the idea might be slightly different.
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Hello dear @Spinnifix , dear @ElenaVorona and dear @bojan_the_crusher ,
I understand this is a topic that needs to be discussed a bit further for everyone to feel ok.
First of all, I'd like to highlight that the goal of all of you is to have a fun and friendly Ideas Section where the feedback of all players can be taken into account by the game team.
How to accomplish that? That's where we find different points of view. I'll give you mine.
On the one hand, it is important that we keep in mind the following, to avoid confusion:
- Check if your idea has already been submitted
- Make sure to give as much details as possible so we understand what you mean exactly. Please understand that we can't really do much with ideas such as : More boosters" "More free stuffs" and so on.
- Give us constructive feedback - This section has been specially conceived for you to give us insights on what could be a great addition to the game. Please make sure you keep the idea doable and reasonable for the Studio to look at it.
You can find all these points HERE
On the other hand, @Spinnifix volunteered to help us keep track of the new ideas, to avoid confusion and be able to give the game team a better overview, and I'm thankful for that. It doesn't mean that her point of view is the only valid, or that we'll close all ideas.
As I understand this system is causing frustration, we'll look for another system from now on. Thanks everyone for caring for the game, for the players and for the Community, and remember the tone is important when discussing about certain topics, even more if we take into account that we speak different languages and the translation can play a big role in how our texts can be understood.
If you have any questions, don't hesitate to reach out!
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I appreciate the effort in moderating the ideas section but I also think it is confusing when players are not given a valid reason as to why the "idea" is in the wrong place and therefore it should be moved. having a feeling it would go under (I believe it has the same meaning as not receiving visibility, right?) is not it. Because discussions can and will go unnoticed too, same as ideas. unless players can tagged.
idea posts should be open to positive/negative negative feedback in the comments, not just to "I voted 👍️" comments. why would they need to be moved to discussions for that?🤔
If an "idea" is in the wrong place, commenters should be informed in what way the "idea" does not meet the right requirements to stay in ideas sections. so commenters have the chance to learn and do better 😀
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@Lola_Pop
I now feel myself in several guises.
1. I feel like a monster who hurt a child (Spinnifix). This child is very much loved by the whole community, and I offended him.
2. I feel like a schoolboy who was reprimanded for indecent behavior (I only need to come to the community with a great positive mood. And I should not express negative or uncomfortable questions in the community, because this can ruin the mood of "someone").
3. In that topic in the Ideas section, I asked the moderators questions. I have not received answers to my questions. The moderators ignored my questions.
4. You want to improve the idea section. It's good.
But I don't know what you mean by "improve".
I think that it is possible to improve the Ideas section only if the community ceases to treat ideas formally, stops writing answers in the form of standard texts. And it will just be more attentive to ideas and people.
And now I see that Spinnifix appears in ideas at the speed of light, writes its verdict (personal opinion), and most of the moderators calmly sigh - oh, how wonderful it is, I have not to answer. And they don't answer.
5. Lola_Pop
I am a member of 12 forums (literature, games, professional and educational forums). At these forums, participants actively discuss topics, adequately perceive criticism and discuss controversial issues in detail. And I see that the administrations of the forums are encouraging these discussions because it is important. No one there says to me - "please, only positive."
You have now created this thread about a serious matter.
But again I read that I should only be positive. (We are all cute, kind and beautiful)
And how can I be positive if I am outraged?))
I still haven't left the community for two reasons:
a) This forum is unique (you can be proud). For me, it is unique in that this forum is sweet-sweet-sweet so much that apart from sweet words, sweet topics, sweet defarambs, they are not happy with anything here.
b) I want the community to prioritize not sweetness, but improving games.
In my opinion, the community has misplaced priorities.
If priorities don't change, the community will simply rot (I'm sorry). But so far the tendency is just that.
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I recall being tagged to this discussion and being asked to close that idea (which I did not close this thread), just so you understand I don't close every thread because I'm tagged and asked to. The only time I will close a thread is if it's a duplicate idea, rude or offensive (threats, abusive language, racism..things of that nature is considered rude/offensive) also unsupported language will be closed. So please understand that just because I'm tagged to close a thread doesn't mean I will.
Hope this is more clear on how threads get closed.
Lol and your not a monster you're just simply speaking how you feel. Sure we can all act like grown ups here and discuss in a civilized manner, whether it's happy or negative as long as it doesn't get out of hand ( abusive language/insulting/belittling people ect.). I don't see the problem in that. Not everybody is going to agree and no two people think alike ..so of course a discussion is not going to just go one way because everybody has different opinions and feelings on whatever matter the discussions is about.
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@gr33n3y3z
I am grateful to you for thinking before closing or not closing an idea.
Thank you. I say this sincerely.
But you, like @Lola_Pop, did not want to answer my two questions. (No one answered any of these questions)
Tell me please, do you (moderators and other stars of the forum) do not know the answers to my questions or do you want to voice these answers?
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Maybe I'm asking the wrong people?
@Spinnifix
You are the main connoisseur of the fields of ideas.
Can you answer my two questions? (From that topic)
You make decisions about what is an idea and what is not an idea.
You probably know more about the Ideas section rules than @Lola_Pop and @gr33n3y3z
If so, please answer my questions.
