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  • Spinnifix
    Spinnifix Posts: 24,769 Sweet Legend
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    I just made the suggestion. I thought it should go the same way. Only that on this day the players are allowed to speak in their own languages. A CM can approach me to work with me on an idea. That would be nice and I would be happy. Maybe a CM is willing to work something out with me. Let's do it like this.😉

  • Lady_Sarina
    Lady_Sarina Posts: 5,617 Level 5
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    Why @Spinnifix?

    Wouldn't it be a great opportunity to see members participate? Hear what ideas they have and collaborate as a community?

    Even CMz put their pants on one leg at a time and whilst the final say would be theirs, wouldn't we all be able to do it together, along with the CMz?

    They already have lots to do, as a community project, we could all nut out the concept, creative pathways and then have them proof it for all the logistics and policies to be added so it fits in with legalities.

    We could have polls on final ideas to select different aspects and have members submit their artwork for a badge even and have them put to polls also, to vote on.

    The sad things about PMz was that all the creative collaborative went on behind the scenes with members and then disappointment when communication/ expectations failed. Or only one person gets to nut out the bolts. Tis an opportunity to bring an activity that is fun and inclusive, creative and collaborative.

    We may not get it 100% perfect the first time but you've got to start somewhere? Even if it turns out not to be viable , then we've all still had a bit of fun working together?

  • ElenaVorona
    ElenaVorona Posts: 1,798 Level 3
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    I am against this "chaos day". I assume that on this day there will be increased activity of players who, in all Community topics, will write not only useful posts in their language. 99% of their posts will be like "Hi!", "I'm from (country)", "Hooray! I can write here in my language!" I won't read all of this.

  • ElenaVorona
    ElenaVorona Posts: 1,798 Level 3
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    I have another suggestion.


    Previously there was an international section in the Community. There were a negligible number of languages. And for the majority of the Community players, this International Corner was not interesting and was not needed. This has now been removed. I don't regret it.


    I propose to the Community to create a new International Section in the Community. But it must be created according to other rules and for other purposes.


    This will be a separate section in the Community, in which branches will be created only by the section moderator. The names of these branches will sound like the names of different languages. For example - "German", "French", "Japanese", "Hindi", "Bulgarian", "Hebrew", "Turkish", "Dutch", "Bahasa Indonesia", "Polish", "Filipino" and many more different languages.

     

    Now, when a player writes in the main sections of the Community in a language other than English, his message is deleted. The moderator writes: "You need to communicate in English in the Community. Use a translator."

  • ElenaVorona
    ElenaVorona Posts: 1,798 Level 3
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    If an International section is created, then moderators can add a link to the International section to the standard message. How this information should be formulated can be thought up and formalized. But the International section should have value as a corner where not moderators, but "volunteers" from the Community can help each other understand what is happening in the Community, answer questions and help newcomers who have not yet been able to adapt to communicating in English language with the help of translators.

    The moderator is not required to identify the language in which the newcomer's original post was written. He can give him a link to the International Section. The player must find his own language in this section.


    I don't know if this idea will be of interest to influential people in the Community. If anyone is interested, we can discuss it together.


    @Diamond_Lim

    You know everything about everyone in our Community.

    Please tell me which of the moderators or CMs I can call here to read this post of mine. Or call them yourself, please. Thank you.

  • Lady_Sarina
    Lady_Sarina Posts: 5,617 Level 5
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    You make some great points @ElenaVorona and that was a good read. It's awesome to see a great conversational idea!🤩

    Personally I didn't enjoy moving non-English enquiries over to the International Area, never to be seen again in the Community they were posting in. After all, they were there because of that individual game (not just device support). It didn't feel like great Customer Service nor inclusive.

    Often, once in the International Area, they didn't come back for contests, weekend challenges, activities, polls or Studio threads to give feedback. Not even for badges. In essence - once in the International Area, most stayed in the International Area. Occasionally if tagged they might make a rare comment. It felt like they became "Internationalers" rather than King Community Members.

    In Jelly, many of us Jellies translated their comments, offered specific assistance and then tagged the appropriate Ambassador. That was frowned upon at one point and each Ambassador had different expectations of how we were to do it and where.

    Some Ambassadors also felt lesser than Moderators and faced different logistics.

    Yes the International Area was an initiative, that became a trial and the daily running's, activities and administrative tasks had to be factored into the long term viability and functionality. I'm thankful it was tested out but also relieved the trial ended.

    You make a fantastic point about "Community Volunteers".

  • Lady_Sarina
    Lady_Sarina Posts: 5,617 Level 5
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    I've seen many in the Community voluntarily helping others just because they enjoy doing so. Language, Support or Contest orientated. Even just using the spoiler.

    The gaming industry is slowly making changes to it's structure but Moderators/ Ambassadors aren't paid and voluntary also means juggling work, family, chores and graphics/ admin. There are many ideas but not always the time to nut out all of them. Which is where conversational discussions like this that exchange and grow/ work on ideas - does help with needed feedback and does some of the leg work. Can be fun to if it's in a co-operative spirit. A solution journey rather than a complaining one.

    The Community Forum has responsibilities to it's members, even though it is part of a larger company that has to adhere to local and international laws and standards. Members also have a responsibility in how we participate and contribute to it's healthiness and maturity.

    Workability, functionality and admin play a huge part in getting any idea of the ground. Great preparation and co-operation are basic keys to that being successful. Creativity, resilience, patience and innovative thinking also.

    I agree, if left unchecked it could be chaos and yet we'd all like to feel included. Translating is a great skill and I learn't it was easier than I thought. There were some very funny moments and enlightening exchanges when things were translated and conversations had about it. One thread, on one day, where you get to post a pic of a themed topic and then comment on it in any language you prefer, could be workable if prepared for and not rushed out to deliver. I'd probably post in Italian or Gaelic😂 A whole other area instituted again, may detract resources and time from other areas it is sorely needed on, just in some of the foundational logistics. It's already spread thin🤷‍♀️ and slow.

  • Spinnifix
    Spinnifix Posts: 24,769 Sweet Legend
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    @Novapichu

    I had already thought of a discussion or poll. But there could be unrest and the players are already starting to write in their languages. I'm thinking ahead. So I didn't start anything. Maybe a CM will be willing to read this and give me a suggestion on how to do better. I would love to do it.

    Plaese!!!

  • Spinnifix
    Spinnifix Posts: 24,769 Sweet Legend
    edited March 2023
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    https://community.king.com/en/blog/discussion/397345/translation-day-on-30-9-2023

    The survey is running!!


    You are welcome to participate.


    I tried it anyway and pointed out the essentials. So makes it a little easier.

  • Spinnifix
    Spinnifix Posts: 24,769 Sweet Legend
    edited March 2023
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    @ElenaVorona

    Hello Elena

    What you said is not true. This international corner was well received by the players. The players said so themselves and loved the competitions. There was another reason why this corner was removed. An automatic translation program is to come. This has been in the works for a long time. That is the reason. Your statement made me think of a new survey. Thanks for that.


    https://community.king.com/en/blog/discussion/397348/%E2%80%8D-%EF%B8%8Finterest-in-the-international-area-german-spanish-french#latest


    This poll is also run by me.

Hey! Would you like to give us your opinion?