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  • ElsaElsa Posts: 32,686 Community Hub Moderator


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  • ScooterpieScooterpie Posts: 3,447 Level 5

    Best Wishes as Always @Elsa. I know you need your time for you Family.


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  • ElsaElsa Posts: 32,686 Community Hub Moderator

    Thanks @Scooterpie! My son and one grandson are now on the mend. My grandson was allowed to go back to school on Wednesday since he tested negative and got the school clearance. My son got a negative test but has not returned to work yet. My daughter-in-law and granddaughter should be retesting next week but thank God they got milder cases of it.



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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 11,819 Level 5
    edited March 27

    Ok, so I keep coming back to this thread routinely and keep seeing all the comments about the multiple accounts issue.

    I see the good same old people trying to bring this to the light, like @Freddy_, @Nix66, @me6412, @gr33n3y3z, @Spinnifix, @hechicerilla, @Spieler_8675309, @Diamond Lim & myself.

    I also see those who are trying to keep going even when this bothers them and keep offering their support & encouragement to other, like @Peter_Tornaros, @rebelchild, @Werner_Cichy, @headoperations, @Scooterpie, @Lady_Choo, @PrettyBubbles & @Nat09.

    And, to my absolute dismay, I see dear Community members, like @Sharon_Loose, @Nck, @DieOmimi & @MountainMom who have been affected adversely by a change that has come to benefit the cheaters.

    Hell, even our dear @Elsa as fed up with the cheating.. and we all know how she rarely gives up!


    As some of you know, I took this matter quite personally & have been going to great lengths to see if we could get the CMs to do something about it. Also, many of you know I've had no such luck... which is, to say the least- quite demoralizing. As GMs were are supposed to be the heart of the Community & to help steer it in the right direction, which is think is pretty awesome. However, if our concerns, complaints & reports fall onto deaf ears, what's the point of even going through such trouble? And, even further, what's the point of having GMs... even CMs! if everyone can just run loose & trash this place with cheating & dishonesty.

    Another thing that has kept me wondering since I started my "multiple accounts investigations" when I first heard about this all when I became a SU in January is that for some reason it seems to be that many here are -for lack of a better word- afraid of those with multiple accounts, specially of those who are GMs (and former SUs)... Are we though? Are the CMs worried about what could happen if those people got more than just the occasional slap in the wrist? Why? Are those players somehow more "important" than those of us who don't engage in cheating behaviors? Are my fellow GMs riding the same "worried" rollercoaster?

    Why I ask this, you might wonder... Well, 'cause at this point & after months of trying to figure this whole thing out to no avail, one thing keep calling my attention. Many -if not all of us by now- know exactly who we are speaking about when we speak about GMs with multiple accounts. This "many" includes all the CMs & many -if not all the GMs & Ambassadors. Also, many -if not if not all of us by now- know exactly who we are speaking about when we speak about "regular" Community members with multiple accounts. This "many" includes all the CMs & many -if not all the GMs & Ambassadors.


    So... why are we not naming names?! Is it because it would somehow be against the House Rules to foster some kind of discord? ... Let me tell you, I'm all for righting wrong with a right but at this point this bs is so wrong that I have no issue with burning the bridges here. This has costed many of us a whole lot of pain when we've seen our friends like @Bumper2019, @Flanje, @KingChewy, @mysticalmysty, @breee, @Trish24 and quite a few others leave.


    I'm ready to burn the bridge. I'm so ready I would just burn it right now & start writing names here that we've all been sharing in the "occult PMs" that have helped us identify all these cheaters. And don't get me wrong, this is not a threat it is just a warning of heated times to come. There is a saying in my country that in English would be something like "he who warns does not betray" so I'm asking that you join my warning. I'm thinking that if many of did this openly & publicly we could not go unnoticed, some of us have already started doing it in other threads. I'm ready & willing to immolate myself jihad style here... are you?!


    Tagging all GMs @Sukanta_Biswas @kiara_wael @bearwithme @aijaziqbal @Yosca @Nix66 @Origins7_Dale @Miss_Dani @gr33n3y3z @MightyWolf @W35Gamer @PummyRaj @Chicken_Slayer @encantes @channie8 @PrettyBubbles @johamilton @Diamond Lim @Lynette @Fluzzard @debrichmond @teresawallace44 @abe_coffee @Elsa @wykoon


    And yes, I did not use emojis or jokes or nothing 'cause I might not be a Royal Legend but I'm royally pissed!


    *Edit* ... Oh, and the almost 11 pages of silence from the top dogs doesn't help either!

  • ElsaElsa Posts: 32,686 Community Hub Moderator

    @Miss_Dani I'm not fed up with the cheating. I am fed up with the constant repetition over and over and over again. No one has been able to post their names but previously I was given their names so instead of adding to this I went directly to the source and asked them! I am not even going to bother responding here as to what they wrote. I'm totally done with this nonsense and it's time to stop it! I have resolved it on my own! So can we get back to the important things in this community which should be our games and game issues? Feeling upset at this moment that it doesn't end! 😥



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  • rebelchildrebelchild Posts: 5,755 Level 4

    Reading all these posts saddens my heart. I have made some wonderful friends in the community and to see them leaving due to the twisted greediness of others makes me so angry. Collecting badges for me is fun. I pay no attention to the point system. I help others when I can because that's what a community does. Work together. Not destroy. I don't look for points when I help people. Most of the time my help comes in the way of private messages. There were people who helped me and I appreciate it. The best part of this community is the friends I have made. I have met some incredible and caring people from all over the world. No points given or titles awarded comes close to the value I put on these friendships. I see who the cheaters are. Many of us do. My word and my integrity are what I have. They are mine and mean more to me than some false achievements so I will continue to be honest and true to myself. No badge, title or points are worth cheating for. To those of you thinking of leaving, I understand. But I beg you to stay. You are the best part of this community!

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  • SpinnifixSpinnifix Posts: 17,834 Ambassador

    @Miss_Dani

    Hello Daniela!

    I can feel your anger very well. Even I'm tired of what's going on here. I tried to solve a lot privately with the CM, but I got no further. Everything was just talked nicely and I hate excuses. I've been threatened many times just because I'm giving my honest opinion. I also got a very nasty letter from the CM and thought about it. I cried for 2 days. Then a death from Covid came to me. My uncle passed away. It happened very quickly. And this thing had brought me back to real life. Since then I don't care about anything that happens to me here. I stay true to my honesty. Yes, I can't understand that scammers are always promoted and rewarded. The simple players here will be banned immediately. Where is the justice. The house rules apply to everyone. I mean for everyone, no matter who it is. This often made me upset and unwell and withdrew for a while. I always look closely to see whether my tone is not appropriate or something else. I'm so sick of all of this. Others are always preferred. We ambassadors work really hard here, but we don't have any functions that we can better keep our area in order. We're just simple players with a title. I don't understand anything here. Now I could attach it. Only, we have to be careful that it is not considered a MUTINITY. But we just want honesty and fairness.

    Thanks Dani for that.🤗

                                                                 
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  • Nix66Nix66 Posts: 12,850 Soda Moderator

    @Miss_Dani I’ve been purposefully staying out of this multiple account holders mess in this thread and instead been keeping my focus on the wonderful (non cheating) Community members.

    It is getting harder and harder to do that though.

    You nailed it with demoralizing.

    I’d add a few more fitting words to describe this mess:

    Devaluing.

    Disingenuous.

    Dishonest.

    Deceitful.

    Dishonorable.

    I could keep going ... but you and others get it.

    I’m preaching to the choir.


    I personally first noticed a multiple account holder (not a SU, GE, GM, CM) back in October or November I believe. Actually both @mysticalmysty and myself noticed and naturally we both in our different ways called this out. That’s when my “multiple accounts investigation” got underway.

    The thing is all that is ever done is the duplicate accounts get banned while the main account just gets warned that they may have only one account.

    The ill gained status, reactions and points remain.

  • SpinnifixSpinnifix Posts: 17,834 Ambassador
    edited March 27

    @Miss_Dani @hechicerilla

    Hello everyone!

    My opinion is that this needs to be clarified. If this is not clarified, what kind of community are we? Please think further! The players are talking about it too, and not just here. If it's not cleared up, what's next? It will go on and on. We have to start stopping it now. If nothing is stopped here and you can do what you want here, then something comes together that is not okay here. A very bad reputation for here. We have to start somewhere. Okay, I'm a very little light. I can not do it. But I can talk and not too briefly, whether you like it or not.😎


    You can't just look at one side and let it go. No, only if this is cleared up, then calm occurs again before the next one reveals itself.😉

                                                                 
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  • SpinnifixSpinnifix Posts: 17,834 Ambassador

    I would like to add something else. I am glad that it was addressed by different people. It could have been prevented if you had done the right thing right away. The house rules were violated here and you are always threatened with the house rules. Even if this is now violated against the house rules, only one cannot remain silent and that is the wrong way. So the house rules also have to be changed. I am happy when more and more daylight comes out.

    Thank you Dani for clearly addressing it again and for those who have not yet submitted their comments here, will do it now and for sure.💗

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  • Lady_ChooLady_Choo Posts: 14,337 Farm Moderator

    Can I just point out that they disbanded an entire programme rather than nastily deal with a few that wouldn't follow the rules. Although I don't understand why they had them back. That's the second time I have personally seen about messages threatening to take titles away and nasty emails from a bunch of Cms who will be firm when needed but don't like being nasty to people. There is clearly a good reason for the messages. If they get enough complaints about a players attitude to people (by multiple people too) then they have to be firm. Its clearly working for some though as they are being a little politer now. The trouble is the cms do not always seem to be firm enough and that is why accounts keep getting away with it.

    I'm in agreement with Elsa. Its done. We can all talk about it till the cows come home, but the Cms won't come and talk publicly about it I doubt. In most cases they are not allowed. They have bosses too, It might not even be completely down to them.

    If you find evidence of more, report to the cms and leave it in their hands. Don't let them chase you away. The community is still the community. Players still need help, there is fun still to be had.



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  • YoscaYosca Posts: 4,329 Soda Moderator

    Hi @Miss_Dani I said it in our corner too: you can call me naïve, but I haven’t seen those multiple accounts players. I'm usually only active in the Soda Community and I guess I just don’t see it 🤷‍♀️. My goal is to help others and I don't pay attention to points at all. Again, I must be naïve then, I don’t even know who you're talking about..... You are talking about GM’s and players... Maybe it is because I am focused on Soda? Anyway when I came to this Community, 2 years ago it was for help and I stayed because I liked it. I also have a life so for me it means I am not day and night in the Community (and I don’t judge others, every person can do what he/she wants, I am talking about myself!) maybe that’s why I don’t see it. I’ll pay attention if I know about multiple accounts though.


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  • Freddy_Freddy_ Posts: 59,373 Sweet Legend

    For Me i think @Nix66 5 D's say it all. I am totally demoralized with this and need to put and end to this for my sanity. Issues been around for a long time and really if there are house rules they should be abided by and also enforced when the proof is there, not a hard process.

    I can not look at this, as so be it any more and let them get on with it, which i have done for a long time. I currently look and think why am i trying so hard in the community and watch others abuse the system. I am not like most of you here going i only do it for this and i do not care about points, How many would say they do not care about the title or the monthly gold bars we get for helping. I gave this up and did not need it for me more about my targets and enjoying the community like i did before i was offered GE. So for me its my free time doing it for free and doing it as i enjoyed it and the people here. That has been taken away due to the issues and i am not just talking people with multiple accounts. I think the ones that are in roles no longer do this although i know 1 has done something very suspicious in the last couple of months and i did notify a SU at time of this, was also something somebody had mentioned in the GE area a while back.

    I do not like to accuse people of anything either for me but not hard to look at the community forums and see things that are unexplainable. Like nearly two pages were every question has an accepted answer. This just does not happen and i know certain GM can accept / un-accept answers glitch or no glitch i know i had it also and did report it at once. This is demoralising to think i try hard to answer the best i possibly can to get accepted answers give the right information yet i know you are lucky to get 3 or 4 from probably 20 questions. In all my time on here and i have been in all forums as you all know this just does not happen or if someone can explain this to me i would love to know.

    So to all those i agree it needs putting to bed once and for all but thats out of our hands and we cannot do what is or should be necessary

    What i have found nice from all this is the people without roles who have come here and put there views down and i would like to thank all of them as it is them that make the community what it is. only wish i could name them all but they will know who they are

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