New levels

Gary_TurnerGary_Turner Posts: 131 Level 3

These new levels are absurd. You’ve got people who are SUPPOSED to be testing levels before release. What the hell are they doing. There’s FAR TOO MANY blockers, NOT ENOUGH moves and the number of boosters required to most levels is ridiculous. Also most levels require about 20 attempts to pass which means it takes about 7/8hrs to pass a level.

What happened to games being fun. You’ve completely ruined what used to be a good game.

My view is that its just GREED on KINGs part and the game has become PAY AS YOU PLAY. That’s why you’ve made the game boring and very difficult to play. No wonder players have given up with it.

We all like a challenge, but its got to be enjoyable.

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  • AlienscarAlienscar Posts: 617 Level 3

    Don’t worry @Gary_Turner the Communty Managers and King have been listening to all the complaints about Candy Connections, and how ridiculously hard and tedious the new levels are. In response they have decided the solution is an Adventure Path.

  • Hey! Would you like to give us your opinion?

  • Gary_TurnerGary_Turner Posts: 131 Level 3

    This isn’t anything new on candy crush saga. It seems to be happening most weeks when new levels are released. The amount of boosters required is ridiculous. I’ve spent some money in the past buying boosters, but no more.

    Candy crush saga used to be enjoyable to play but it seems the players are just being used as cash cows nowadays

  • Tzvi_MarcuTzvi_Marcu Posts: 989 Level 4

    @Gary_Turner Do you play in Win 10 and talk about the new levels or in a differnt apps 2 weeks later. If you don't play on Win 10 you get the levels after two weeks and number of moves of most the levels is redust.

  • LindQLindQ Posts: 177 Kingster

    You're very welcome to leave feedback on levels in the threads for them, it will come back to the team. However, I do want to let you know that rhere are no levels that take 20 attempts for the average player. These are things that we monitor to ensure that levels are not too difficult. No levels are pay to play, and all are possible to complete without the use of boosters, and if a level seems to be too hard it is always tweaked down. We release patches on levels daily to ensure we have both easy and challenging levels for everyone to enjoy 😊

  • AlienscarAlienscar Posts: 617 Level 3

    However, I do want to let you know that rhere are no levels that take 20 attempts for the average player. These are things that we monitor to ensure that levels are not too difficult

    If I am reading that correctly @LindQ what you are saying is that all of the player's that complain about being stuck on a level for days are just playing a few hours a day.

  • LindQLindQ Posts: 177 Kingster

    What I am saying is that we are tracking data over how many times levels are played before they are completed, so even if one player is stuck on a level for a long time we can see that the level does not have this issue for majority of players. We track average player data, usually not individual player data. It's not tracked in time or days, but rather in number of tries it takes to complete levels, on average. These things are always tracked in games to make sure players don't get stuck for too long. No levels released lately take even close to 20 tries on average, we feel like that would be way too many for the game to be enjoyable.


    We all struggle with different levels! I sometimes am stuck for days on easy levels, even though it might take the average player 1-2 tires it takes me 40 😅

  • sweet_stanleysweet_stanley Posts: 8 Level 2

    I do not agree with you @LindQ,

    I understand that you represents king interests. In many of my post here, I am complaining with same issues as @Gary_Turner . After Activison acquired king.com the game was totally ruinded. Moves had been drastically reduced - you know that, and we users know that either. Real reason isn't for "making the game more fun"

    You wrote "However, I do want to let you know that rhere are no levels that take 20 attempts for the average player."

    According that you are collecting user data you know this is a lie. It is well known you are forced to make game to earn more money for king shareholders.

    I understand that, but, the fact is you ruined the game completely. And as I see, I am not the only one with that opinion.

    Have been playing CCS since 6-7 years but I definetely gave it up this month.

    Because you reduced moves so dractically I have to cheat game using hex editors or other tools to increase in game moves, or to increase my numbers of boosters. But with cheating the game is not fun anymore. (3 years ago I used to buy boosters, spent ~ 200 Euros). Without boosters the game won't let me pass sometimes for more than 55 times and with cheats. This is not a game anymore - this is a torture.

    I am 90's gamer. I remember games from Nintendo era, I was playing PS and Xbox games for fun. That game was real game. Once I purchased the game it gave me dozen hours of fun. And that game fas fairly playable according my own skills.

    But nowdays - games are like slot machine games. They are not playable according to your gaming skills, the only the only criteria of playability is the ability to pay.

    I am so sorry for being honest, but you are so greed nowdays that you totally ruined game that used to be fun. This is not only my opinion as I see. Many of players are giving it up...

    I have so many arguments - If you need to see how many time it takes me to pass one level I can shoot a video for you. You will see that it will take much more than 20+ time to pass one single level.

  • Gary_TurnerGary_Turner Posts: 131 Level 3

    I play CC on my iPhone, iPad and laptop. Currently I’m on level 9115. All the videos show 40 moves, I’m getting 21. I have yet to see a video of this level being done in 21 moves with no boosters. Played 15 times and got nowhere near passing. Can’t even get passed the middle of the board so there must be something wrong, and why would anyone want to be stuck on a level for days? I thought the game was supposed to be enjoyable to play but you’ve removed every bit of fun from it. There are a lot of levels that take plenty attempts and plenty boosters to pass but are not categorised as hard.

  • AlienscarAlienscar Posts: 617 Level 3

    We track average player data, usually not individual player data. It's not tracked in time or days, but rather in number of tries it takes to complete levels, on average. These things are always tracked in games to make sure players don't get stuck for too long.

    No levels released lately take even close to 20 tries

    @LindQ I didn't for a moment think you would be tracking individual player's as the player base for CCS is far too large for that.

    The thing is if your tracking doesn't include how many boosters a player has used to beat a level than your average does not accurately portray the average player. That is, I have seen screenshots of people with in game and pre-game boosters that number in the hundreds. For me this is not average and if these players are included in your tracking it will obscure the true average for a level.

    Reading some of the feedback for the newest levels it is quite obvious that the use of boosters is a common thing. This for me isn't representative of the average player, as most player's do not have a lot of boosters to spare.

  • LindQLindQ Posts: 177 Kingster

    This is true! We do have all these things in mind when we tweak levels and view data etc, and we always test levels without boosters too. The more players that get through the levels the more data we have as well. Far from everyone has hundreds of boosters laying around, but some players use a lot of boosters to clear a level first try to keep their win streak etc.


    @Gary_Turner When it comes to this level specifically we have only made tweaks to make this level harder. When it was first released with 40 moves it was way too easy to be a hard and challenging level. We therefore reduced moves on it. We always reduce moves to 35 or less after the first week, and if a level is deemed too hard or just hard enough with more than 35 moves then we make the level easier in other ways (change spawnrates of special candies or reduce layers of blockers etc). 9115 is tricky, it's hard to open up, but once you open up the first bit it is very explosive and the rest opens up faster 😊

  • Gary_TurnerGary_Turner Posts: 131 Level 3

    That’s your problem right there. As you say not many people have stacks of boosters so it takes many attempts to pass. We are not playing the game anymore, we’re just waiting on a lucky board. Where’s the enjoyment in that.

    Ive passed 9115 but had to use 2 UFOs and 2 hammers. As you’ll see on your data I’ve played 9116 5 times on iPhone and 8 times on iPad with coconut wheels and got nowhere. None of these levels have been marked as difficult so I don’t know what the next couple of skull levels that are coming up are going to be like.

    l stopped playing this game for a while because of what was happening but came back to see if anything had changed. Sadly its got worse. Its ok giving us a challenge but make it an enjoyable one. The number of blockers in the levels this week has been ridiculous. Hardly any moves left to complete level once they’ve been cleared. Every level is geared up for the use of boosters which (as you’ve said) not everyone has, and that means money.

    I agree with everything sweet stanley says

  • AlienscarAlienscar Posts: 617 Level 3

    Far from everyone has hundreds of boosters laying around, but some players use a lot of boosters to clear a level first try to keep their win streak etc.

    @LindQ I said I have seen screenshots of people with hundreds of boosters, not that everyone has hundreds of boosters. The fact that a few people have so many boosters would lead me to understand that there must also be a lot of players that have boosters that number in double figures. This is far from the norm/average.

    If your 'some players use a lot of boosters' are included in the average player scenario for determining the correct number of moves for a level then you are unfairly skewing the game play in favour of those that don't mind paying for their boosters.

  • LindQLindQ Posts: 177 Kingster

    Some players do have lots of boosters, but we are aware that some players use them and it is something that we take into account. I can't go into detail about our data process, but it's absolutely something we are aware of, and the levels are meant to be enjoyable for everyone, even if they don't have any boosters.

  • Gary_TurnerGary_Turner Posts: 131 Level 3

    Its not enjoyable if you don’t have boosters because it takes ages to pass one level. That’s why so many people have left to find a more enjoyable game to play

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