New feature - Mr Toffee's Fair!

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  • disappointedbykingdisappointedbyking Posts: 143 ✭✭✭
    I have a problem with MTF, the rewards are not enough. I don't and won't ever buy boosters. Without them, you can't or won't win anything. No race, not many new levels, no BGH, nothing actually. 
    MTF gives you a pink hammer? big deal!
    But most of the ones posting here are around level 1000, much easier than the end of the 2000...
    If I had the quests, like some still do, I could enjoy the game again.
    Instead, I got a commercial claiming they have lowered their prices. At 5 cents, I still would not bu anything!
  • XarlyXarly Posts: 1,966 Community Manager
    Hi all,

    Currently almost every Soda player has Mr Toffee's Fair. The reason why a very small group still has the quests is so that, in case there are issues or new tweaks on Mr. Toffee's Fair, its performance can be tracked. If, for example, a feature is leading to the game crashing, having a group without that concrete feature helps the team determine that the cause of the crash is that concrete part of the game (because that other group would not be experiencing the same crashes).

    This is done across the industry very often and it's also usual at King. as mentioned, in this example. This is the main reason why this is happening (and again, the group not having Mr Toffee's Fair at this point is very small and doesn't have it for the reasons mentioned).

    Besides this, I wanted to mention that the team is currently working on new changes that will improve the feature drastically. This has been done with the player feedback on the very center of it all and elements like "players electing a quest and not finishing it" or "rewards not being an incentive" have been on the table and have been addressed.

    When will these optimizations be live?

    I cannot be specific because all of these adaptations take time and need to be prioritised, added on certain sprints, tested and then deployed. But I can guarantee the commitment from the team to have this shipped as soon as possible.

    The team is actively working hard (they do plenty of things, and run the extra mile very often) and I hope I can share more and good news with you soon.

    Cheers,
    Xarly
  • Jami_FagalaJami_Fagala Posts: 70 ✭✭✭
    @Xarly why is there such a big difference in the rewards between toffee and the quests, both in quantity and quality???
  • disappointedbykingdisappointedbyking Posts: 143 ✭✭✭
    because King hopes we will buy more?
  • PurplePantsPurplePants Posts: 28 ✭✭
    Right now I am waiting on one person to finish their tile and from what I remember it wasn't a hard one to complete, so I'm beginning to think that they are just blocking it.
  • candysodacrushercandysodacrusher Posts: 158 ✭✭✭
    @Xarly why is there such a big difference in the rewards between toffee and the quests, both in quantity and quality???
    I know you asked @Xarly, but I’d like to share my theory:
    1.  Timed boosters keep you playing longer.  Use it or lose it. 
    2.  Complaints from people who earned or bought single-use boosters losing them.
    3.  They added the wrapped and striped candy booster a while back and gave everyone a few, but other than in Rainbow Road there wasn’t a way to earn them.  That was okay,  (imho) because they really aren’t that much help and are pretty easy to make on your own.  
    4.  Revenue.  People can’t create either type of lollipop, hand switch, or double fish.  
  • Jami_FagalaJami_Fagala Posts: 70 ✭✭✭
    I have my thoughts for the reason for the difference in rewards but I was interested in what Xarly says is the reason. Just like I have my thoughts for the reason behind replacing quests with toffee. I think both come down to money but I was given other reasons for quests being taken away which makes no sense to me. So I was just wondering what the reason for the difference in rewards if not more money. @disappointedbyking and @candysodacrusher I do appreciate and agree with your reasons. 
  • Jami_FagalaJami_Fagala Posts: 70 ✭✭✭
    Sounds about right @Ditte 😊
  • TheaPierrotTheaPierrot Posts: 20
    King is in the business to make money so I think accusing them of trying to through game design is a bit unfair.

    I'm a relatively inexperienced player. I have restarted 3 or 4 times when changing devices. I just started using Mr. Toffee's Fair recently. 

    I think a major problem is players not clicking on the "i" and assuming the game is played like tick tac toe. I was surprised when I completed a diagonal and didn't win. On one game I think we filled in a good part of the board before finally winning. 

    Since then I can tell that the grand majority of players don't know how it works. Being able to play with others who know how to would be fun. You need to find a better way to communicate that it isn't like tic tac toe. 

    Now my strategy is doing the most difficult tile in the easiest row or column. I wouldn't mind having to use a booster to close the board and start a new one if I thought the new board would include people who know how it works. 
  • Brian_TateBrian_Tate Posts: 48 ✭✭
    Since rewards are minimal and some teammates don't play, we should be able to do 4 tiles a day. 
  • susanm9090susanm9090 Posts: 58 ✭✭
    Just an FYI, tasks have NOT gotten easier and my last few boards have not had a single row that didn’t either require using a booster, completing two levels, or getting five stars.   

     
  • disappointedbykingdisappointedbyking Posts: 143 ✭✭✭
    once again, I picked up my line, did 2 tiles leaving the easiest ones (who knows? maybe another player would feel able to gather 100 orange candies?) and of course... the line is now blocked. It is not possible anymore. Either they do it on purpose, or they are bots,  but no normal human being would do it. 
    I picked up the only line or column that did not have a "use a hammer" or a hand, or pass a new whatever level, as you don't know when they come. I had to pass a bubble but it was the one coming. So okay, but nothing else! I clocked on "pass 2 new frosting" a while ago and it took me 3 days!
    so, Xarly, what can be done? please?
  • susanm9090susanm9090 Posts: 58 ✭✭
    once again, I picked up my line, did 2 tiles leaving the easiest ones (who knows? maybe another player would feel able to gather 100 orange candies?) and of course... the line is now blocked. It is not possible anymore. Either they do it on purpose, or they are bots,  but no normal human being would do it. 
    I picked up the only line or column that did not have a "use a hammer" or a hand, or pass a new whatever level, as you don't know when they come. I had to pass a bubble but it was the one coming. So okay, but nothing else! I clocked on "pass 2 new frosting" a while ago and it took me 3 days!
    so, Xarly, what can be done? please?
    The one thing I am wondering is whether the whole team has the same tasks, that we all see the same board.  If not, you may see something easy in a square but another player has a difficult task in that square.
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